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First Annual Create Debate Awards
Welcome to the debate listing for the first annual CreateDebate Awards! I know there have been a few debates already created, but I needed to create a new one so I can edit the main debate as we add categories, etc.!
Please enter your award categories and nominations in the YES catergory, and things you don't want or users you don't want to be nominated in the NO category.
I will start adding the list of categories and then we will figure our timing and a "voting" system. I would like to actually "give" something to the winners and since I am doing this on a limited and personal budget, if I find something appropriate it will likely be small.
More to come...
Now, get going on those award categories and nominations!
A special SHOUT OUT to Axmeister for the original idea!!!
I will start lising ALL of the debate categories that have been suggested (starting with this debate). I will go back to the others and add those categorties as well.
Eventually, I will strike through all of the categories I think we will skip, and bold the ones I think we will keep. If you see a category deleted (strike through), but want it saved, post an argument and ask for voting support!
I will also post concepts that have been shared for the award winners (online badges, wall of fame, T-shirts, Polos, etc.) and will make a decision prior to the final awards announcement.
So, check here for the first part of the list (not in any order and there might be duplicates)...
OK HERE WE GO!
1. Most Points - Joe "Muttley" Cavalry
2. Coolest debate graphics (and Most Anti-Obama) - Hellno-"Obama in"-2012
3. Biggest Attention Whore (and most troubled mind) awarded posthumously - RIP TheTruth91, 92 and 93
I'd like to nominate Andy (addltd) as the internet's coolest moderator. Even though he started drinking at an early age (check out his avatar), he is still relatively fair and a decent dude! LOL
Thanks for the shout out! The pic I used as an avatar was when my Great Grandfather let me get the "last drop" of a bottle of Budwiser. But, yes you are correct it started my troubled youth which has led to heavy drinking and dilusional posts in the middle of the night!
I'd like to nominate Andy (addltd) as the internet's coolest moderator. Even though he started drinking at an early age (check out his avatar), he is still relatively fair and a decent dude! LOL
You're not very bright are ya?
1st, that post was clearly a joke
2nd, if I say someone is cool even though.... then that would mean that I don't think that drinking at an early age is cool.
3rd, and most importantly, no sane person would even compare the two.
You're obsessed with pedophilia and you're a sick bastard.
Not true in fact. I had a debate with him where he was very disrespectful but in fairness to him once i infromed him of it he cleaned up his act alright.
I know exactly what you said Hellno, BTW if you knew you'd know my spelling is far better than your own, the difference is id don't spell check and it type very fast.
I just wanted to inform you that he can be disrespectful, as he was to me.
There you go again with your arrogant BS... How do you know your spelling is far better than mine? How can you possible know that? That's arrogant as hell Gary.
YOur entirely correct, i was intentionally arrogant there as i was responding to your insult. Im sorry if i come across arrogant, i admit i am a little, and i know it but i dont think im the most arrogant on this site, not by a long shot. Anyway if you knew me in real life you'd know im not actually an arrogant person most of the time, in fact i am repulsed by people who are, people who use there intelligence to enhance their egos, beleive ive had enough experience with them (maybe some has rubbed off but im working on it beleive me). I come from a relatiely poor family (at least on my mothers side who had 15 brothers and sisters and no father and grew up in the Ireland of yesteryear) and i know my roots, i dont appreciate being called arrogant even though i know i can be at times. Im trying not to be and in a way im glad you pionted it out.
I'm not sure why so many people believe in rewarding a negative contributor as this is almost like encouraging them to keep dulling-up the community. I really support some of your suggestions but I really don't want negative members to get an award... waits for people to start saying "well that rules you out then" hahahaha, OH WELL. lmao.
Well, what's the reward, really? Nothing! It's the internet and this has to be one of the most obscure opinion/debate sites of them all... Therefore it's just for fun... nothing more. There can be fun in rewarding someone for something negative... It's better than nothing at all, that's for sure.
But surely Andy shouldn't be wasting his time on people that contribute in a negative way to CD, it just seems rather odd I guess. Whilst I see where you are coming from and that it is a fun gesture, I think the reward they were getting should go to the next-in-line positive person :-)
Im sorry you feel that, i hope you realise my continued america bashing was only rally intended to dampen down the rabid american nationalism present on this site, and to provide the other side of the story (theres always two you know). Plus given that i was one of very few i felt like i had to overcompnsate. BTW if think i deserve another award id like to hear what it is.
Give me a break, I've seen very little of that on this site... there's way more America bashing, you and Ax being the biggest of them all. Having said that I will at least give you a little credit as Ireland is fairly neutral most of the time (but not completely innocent) ... Ax is a bit hypocritical as the UK can be blamed for many of the same things as the US.
BTW if think i deserve another award id like to hear what it is.
"Give me a break, I've seen very little of that on this site"
Of course YOU'VE seen very little of it on this site, im not even going to try to explain why i said that i know you can;'t tolerate what i have to say.
"Having said that I will at least give you a little credit as Ireland is fairly neutral "
Nationality is immaterial, you've never been able to grasp this.
You don't have a clue as to what I do grasp or what my ability to grasp is because you're blind. It doesn't matter what anyone says... you have your opinion and you're too stubborn (or stupid) to see what people are actually saying. I've completely agreed with you on things before and told you as much but you continued to tell me I was wrong... when I completely agreed with you! It makes no sense? You're an impossible person to talk to because of your arrogance and your blindness... that's why I've all but stopped communicating with you. It's a waist of my time.
I amdmit the animal testing was more about me looking for an argument than actually disagreeing with yo but i still think you had a soft touvh approach to the issue but i fully understand why you were a bit bemused by my disagreement, i love arguing and i was just trying to use you to get my daily dose.
The Multiple Personality Award could go to the one with the most fake accounts.
The Bipolar Award could go to either the one with the most flip flops (on opinion) on a given topic or to the one who has a house on both poles (North and South).
Most articulate.
Early riser (posts first thing in the morning)
Late nighter (posts late at night)
All nighter (never logs off)
Biggest boobs (real or fake)
Nerd/Geek (most research and links supporting their point of view)
Fanatic (refuses to change his mind and refuses to change the subject)
Best icon/avatar/picture
Most PC (Politically Correct)
of course, we could also have the least PC, etc.
And my all time favorite.... wait for it..... most smileys ;)
Since this is an international debate site, these three probably shouldn't count as there will be late nighters everywhere but just don't appear late to the ones in different countries. Good idea, but I just think it won't work.
I was thinking more like T-shirts that had CreateDebate on the front and all the winners on the back! kind of like concert tour T-shirts... What do you think? I may need to crowd source the graphics and T-Shirt printing.
I have not a clue. We're kind of limited due to the situation... I just want Dr. Pepper and Skittles, but I doubt everyone would be happy with that. ^_^ I'm just too simple
Hey Axmeister, sorry I didn't give you the appropriate (it was your idea) shout out in the debate...please see the main text of the debate. All wrongs must be corrected...and now it is!
You can call me whatever you want my opinions although they may seem extreme at times are based in reality, its just a reality your not used to hearing about.
I'm on the internet... do you think you are the only one with those ideas that I've seen? You continue to pretend to know me but you don't. There goes your arrogance again... you just can't turn it off can ya Gary?!
No i dont i admit my views are extreme and yes i am anti-american, i admit it, but i dont dislike the people, im anti american government and im anti american corporatism.
Now you may say i dont you and your right, but i do know the views that you've expressed on this site, i also know very well how false they are and how wrong they are.
but i do know the views that you've expressed on this site, i also know very well how false they are and how wrong they are.
Which views are those Gary? All of them I guess... well how lucky everyone on this site is to have the all knowing Gary to set them straight and tell them that all their opinions are wrong. I despise arrogance and you are by far the most arrogant jackass on this site.
"well how lucky everyone on this site is to have the all knowing Gary to set them straight "
You can try to paint me and categorise me whatever way you want, it doesnt bother me, can see your trying to label me and probably trying to get others to agree with you, i dont mind.
"I despise arrogance and you are by far the most arrogant jackass on this site."
In your opinion i am the most arrogant jackass on this site, im sorry you're incapable of seeing or even admitting to your own folly.
Of course you dont know what im taking about from day one you've castigated me for being too anti-american, i admit i deserved much of, i have been taking the piss by constantly coming on and discussing nothing else and i do regret that but you just dismissed me as lunatic earlier on and since then you've refused to even entertain anything i have to say.
I didn't say I had no idea what you're talking about... I said you have no idea what you're talking about. As for the rest of that it's simply not true.
I don't hate you - it takes a lot for me to hate someone. Besides, we have some interesting discussions and we wouldn't have those if I hated you. No, I just think after all you've said blah blah (no hard feelings) that silaswash is definitely the most loved around here. You definitely are near the top though, I believe that, far more than me... obviously.
What we need to do is make ONE category per comment and then up vote or down vote and whatever gets the fifteen or ten with the most should be what we use.
If we have more than one per comment we get a whole bunch of comments and it gets confusing.
what is that suppose to mean? I know why you guys hate me and that is because you guys judge to quickly. I do find that ignorant but that can change over time.
LOL! I just said that because of that poll of yours... besides, what's wrong with a little attention whoring every now and then? Look at me! Look at me! LOL ;)
Heres my elaboration on what i actually meant just incase you didn't read it:
Aside:
You misunderstand what im trying to say, when i quote FACTS they are facts, when i give my opinion i can be as wrong as anyone else on this site but i dont make anything up to support my arguments, thats all i meant, im sorry you felt i mean that im always right,and that everything i say is correct, that would be a ridiculous assertion for anyone to make
End of Aside
Now if you want to take issue with my claim that all the facts ive presented are facts then please instead of resorting to childish ridicule you could actually challenge me on somehting i claimed to be true i.e. presented as a fact that is actually completely false and made up just to prove a point.
I admit i have dabbled in a fair bit of speculation on this site some of which has been proved correct e.g. i claimed back in Februaury when debating (although thats a generous way of putting it) Joe that the US government was torturing private Bradley Manning in order that he implicate Julian assange (i.e. say he forced him to give him the info. he received as then they could build a convincing case against assange), since then alot of information has been circulated corroborating this (see below just what i found with a quick google search):
My piont is if im speculating or giving an opinion im not stupid enough to say its a fact, when say something is factual i have credible evidnce to back it up. Now instead of being an ignorant asshole who can't stomach anybodies opinion who go against his own why not producing the evidence that shows when and where i lied PLEASE.
Look i know how to take a joke beleive me but when someone insinuates that i come here and write a load of completely made up and tryb to pass it off as fact i have to take offense to that.
Are you seriously concerned that someone will see that video and start thinking you are making stuff up? Don't be paranoid. Look, I get what you are saying... you use facts that are true and you have opinions.... two different things. But, I'm sure some of the facts that you have posted are not true... that doesn't mean you made it up, it just means that your source was incorrect. No, I'm not going to go through all your arguments to find one... all I'm saying is that all of us have probably posted some incorrect info at some point... And unless you state fact or opinion on every single sentence you post we won't always which is which. I'm throwing ya a bone here Gary so don't fly off the handle and take it the wrong way.
Im not gonna fly off the handle im irish we are very docile mild mannered people with a very calm stable temperment.
I have to challenge you on the info. though, while i admit i there is an outside chance i may have presented something that wasn't 100% accurate (i.e. i sid in previous debate that the distribution of wealth in america was a 90/10 split between rich and poor when in fact it may be 80/20, im not which is true i never found out, the), the piont is while i obviously could have presented something completely false i have to disagree(and not becuase im arrogant) as i do put effort into finding out what the correct info. is and i dont present anything as a fact unless i think i am fully sure of it, but you may be correct i have to acknowledge the possibility.
i think you'll find ive never said anything that was factually incorrect.
Bwhahaha! Of course Gary... everything you've ever said was factually correct... You couldn't possibly make a mistake could you Gary? Wait, or is that you over inflated ego speaking? Keep it up... you're living up to that arrogant label more and more with every post you make.
You misunderstand what im trying to say, when i quote FACTS they are facts, when i give my opinion i can be as wrong as anyone else on this site but i dont make anything up to support my arguments, thats all i meant, im sorry you felt i mean that im always right,and that everything i say is correct, that would be a ridiculous assertion for anyone to make.
I think your confusing your own arrogance for mine there. You were the one who just couuldnt stand to listen to anything that was remotely against america, the second id mention some of the grave atocities your country has commited you'd blow a fuse, label a jihadist lunatic and refuse to discuss the matter further.
Wrong! Anyone that knows me knows I'm anything but arrogant. And I'm calling bullshit on the rest of your post as well. I have no problem listening to things that are against America... I have never said we are perfect, but after a while, the same old bullshit from the same person gets old. That's all you do on this site is bash America. It makes you look like a lunatic... I'm not the only one that has had this opinion Gary... there's at least a couple other people on this very post that have said as much.
"Wrong! Anyone that knows me knows I'm anything but arrogant"
Arrogance comes in many guises, not listening to or taking someone seriously is a form of arrogance you have been guilty of on more than one occasion, look back through our correspondance and i think you'll agree you were guilt of this alot more than just once.
"And I'm calling bullshit on the rest of your post as well"
Of course you are, you wont take anything i say seriously, and you have the guile to call me arrogant. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
"I have no problem listening to things that are against America"
YES YOU DO!!!!!!! You think you dont cause you hear pundits running down certain aspects but you can't handle someone who really attacks your countries imperialism, if you could you would have challenged me on all those crazy accusations and lunatic rants im famous for.
BTW if you had you would have realised that most of them were correct but you wouldnt even etertaint he thought.
"That's all you do on this site is bash America"
This i admit to, it wasn't intentional but i couldnt let everyone get way with there convenient fantasies. I will branch out in future, dont worry, there'll be a completely different side to me.
"It makes you look like a lunatic"
I dont think i looh like a lunatic, i admit i am very passionate but you decided to label me a lunatic as you disagreed so fervently with what i had to say.
"I'm not the only one that has had this opinion Gary... there's at least a couple other people on this very post that have said as much."
Do you think i care, millions and millions of americans just celebrated the death of a terrorist that would never have existed had your government not created him, they celebrated a victory despite the fact that it was a loss. You think i have second thoughts about my feelings on this when i see all those people celebrating, give me a break.
I don't agree with awards going to members who contribute in a negative way - its a complete waste of time when the award could go to someone next in the positive line.
LOL that one went straight over the top of your head didn't it? Wow, and I like how you cut off the end of my statement which shows the joke. Really!?!
He cut off the rest of my joke; scroll up. "Ohh, he'll really hate that... ;)". ;p If I was being arrogant, I would most likely have been serious thus wouldn't have added the part that displayes the joke "Ohh, he'll really hate that... ;)" Lol.
Ha ha, how about most belligerent hypocrite Billie
Although I'd have loved a shot at the most arrogant, but I reckon you'll pip me to that post as well, and biggest attention whore too, besides this awards thing is a little bit sad.
Ha ha, how about most belligerent hypocrite Billie
Although I'd have loved a shot at the most arrogant, besides this awards thing is a little bit sad.
See what I mean? LOL. Sorry I didn't slot you in for most arrogant, I have two others I want to win that one. You fit 'dullest' just perfectly ;) The awards aren't sad, and if they are then why would you "love a shot at the most arrogant"? Why would you even want to win that?
"love a shot at the most arrogant"? Why would you even want to win that?
I wouldn't care, that is the point, although your labeling of me as dull is funny, seeing as we've had some decent heated exchanges, I thought you at least were feisty.
What exactly would you like from a non-dull debater, is it someone that agrees with you, or just drops their opinion when you start flinging profanity around?
I respect those that go tet-a-tet and don't whine like a spoiled child when they don't get their way, or not go about sticking my name up in an attempt to get others to look at me negatively.
But hey thanks a million, I now know how to act in order to be less dull.
What exactly would you like from a non-dull debater, is it someone that agrees with you, or just drops their opinion when you start flinging profanity around?
LOL, no. I respect members who respect me.
I respect those that go tet-a-tet and don't whine like a spoiled child when they don't get their way, or not go about sticking my name up in an attempt to get others to look at me negatively.
I am most certainly not a spoiled child and my intention was not to make others look at you negatively; I believe that you qualify for that award. Its all just a bunch of fun, you can nominate me for something really awful if you like, I won't take offence. How about... most irritating?
And I too, but if I recall, you starting debating against my posts by telling me that my theories were fooked up, and further went on to label me a prick, arrogant, and basically completely misguided.
I am most certainly not a spoiled child and my intention was not to make others look at you negatively; I believe that you qualify for that award.
As far as being spoiled goes, fair enough that was an off the cuff comment anyway.
You believe I qualify for an award that is negative in it's sentiment, one that you made up and one that you put my name up for, while it does not bother me, and I do understand that it is all a bunch of fun, I wished to point out the attitude you display, one also needs to be careful when posting things about others in an open Internet forum.
I also don't care to nominate you for anything, my previous nomination was merrily a response to yours.
Well all tension and differences aside, I apologize if I offended/upset you. Perhaps we should debate something that we are not so passionate about which could actually lead somewhere ?
No, need for apologies, there was no offense, I just always fight my corner as do you.
The only thing is the best debate comes from those subjects about which one is passionate, I've learned a great deal through arguing topics of religion and science on here and have had my cough softened a few times by contributors far more strident and vociferous than me, it is the one thing that makes this site unique and why I've stayed around for so long.
I guess thats debatable ;) Anyhow, I'm sure if I was to be nominated for something it would be for something far, far worse so your attention whoring is golden next to what I would be awarded for.
You're kidding, right? I thought if I got nominated it'd be for something horrendous LMFAO. Cheers man, appreciate it. I haven't seen much of Eliot Terabon.
He's a friend of mine from that other site... (he's not on here much) but like you he is very witty and if provoked, he'll tear you up in a way that is rather amusing for everyone that isn't on the receiving end. LOL
Ahh right. I will have a look through his arguments and by the sounds of it will have great fun in process. I love to rip people to shreds if they rub me up the wrong way, its very satisfying somehow. I don't do it often, and have only done it once or twice if that here.
"What we should do is collect all of you cocksucking traitors and then shove you out of C130's over meca with only your qurans to stop your fall.
Miserable shiteaters like you have no place in the United States Of America.
You've been fucked in the ass before, (this much is obvious), because you whine like a bitch.
Anal warts like yourself have NO PLACE in the world of men, only in the dark corridors of some buttfuck asylum.
You are a traitor, you piece of hogshit, just like your entire family before you.
I spit on you all, you cankered cunts."
Thats what you call witty? I knew you americans were crass but i thought you'd have a little bit more taste than that. This guy is an idiot, hes not witty, you clearly dont know what real wit is if you think that ignoramus has it, i think anyone who reads his posts will agree They dont change from the above), ive encountered him and hes always the same (see above).
I still have to put Gary above those two for most arrogant... especially after what he said to me today. (I haven't seen arrogance out of Bohemian at all just for the record)
You haven't seen Bohemian and myself debating... I put iamdavidh first and Bohemian is runner up. I haven't seen Gary being very arrogant either and I am debating him now.
I think you need to try to walk the line that you claim to have committed to i.e. being a respectful debator cause i can tell you as arrogant as ive been you been a hell of lot worse to me, and proof is in the pudding (or in our correspodance).
Fuck you Gary! I have always said that I give what I get... check out my arguments asshole... I am respectful to everyone until they're rude to me. You lost my respect from reply number one when you told me to hang myself! You're an arrogant piece of shit that doesn't deserve my respect.
"Fuck you Gary! I have always said that I give what I get."
I dont eveer remember telling you to fuck off, or calling you an idiot, or a lunatic, i admit i said you were indoctrinated (i also said i was to a lesser extent), i said you were delluded
Now as for telling you to hang yourself, i like to say i didn't mean but that would be a lie so im not going to, i did admit i misjudged you and for that i am sorry. You expressed view that struck at the core of my beliefs i.e. the right of Isreal to kill palestian civilians in order to furth er their colonisation of their land (i know thats not how you see it but the 500,000 settlers currently living on palestian land would argue that for me), i reacted in a way that shows me to be the cynical fuck that i am.
"You're an arrogant piece of shit that doesn't deserve my respect."
Nobody deserves anyones respect, respect is something that should be earned (in my opinion) and while i have probably done very little to earn yours i could say the same about you.
It doesn't matter if you told me to fuck off or not... when you told me I should hang myself that showed me what type of a person and debater you are. I try to always be respectful until someone gives me reason not to be. You gave me more than reason at that point. I have never told anyone to kill themselves and since you told me to, I think it would be fair game for me to tell you the same but I won't. I wouldn't even go that far.
Go right ahead, if you honestly deep down in your heart think that this world would be a better place without me on it, then go foe the gusto, tell me to slip into a nice warm bath with two rusty ravor baldes at my wrists. Im a cynical bastard and ive been shaped that way, and im not gonna change (whether id like to or not).
So you insult me by saying i have terrible spelling and then you get offended when i tell you its better than yours. Your unbelievable, and ontop of you say it to other people in order to drum up support for my "most arrogant" label.
Now i know why you used to get so upset and refuse to talk to me when i descirbed the hypocracy and double standards of the US, i think you can figure out what im getting at.
Your arrogance continues... please tell me how you know your spelling is better than mine... It may be, I don't know... but the fact is your spelling on here is terrible and mine isn't... now, I actually do believe your story about typing fast but you have no way of knowing if your spelling is better than mine yet you say that... Arrogant asshole!
I refuse to talk to you because you have absolutely nothing new to add to any discussion... everything you say goes back to the same old bullshit... bash America. You just did it again... it's old and boring.
Of course i did, i said my spelling is better than yours because honestly but i obviously dont know, i just said that to piss you off after you insulted me, now lets get down it shall we, i dont throw insults at anyone who doesnt insult me first, you can check this on anyone of debates. Yes i have my arrogant opinions, and yes i am a headstrong stubborn person but i can admit when im wrong, and i give respect when i get it. I have yet to get any from you though.
You throw shit at me in th eform of insults and then call me arrogant when i throw it back, thats why said you were a hypocrite, and whats more i think its a perfectly valid criticism just like your arrogant label is perfectly valid when labelled against me.
i dont throw insults at anyone who doesnt insult me first
Bullshit! We've been through this a thousand times... when you told me to "go upstairs and hang myself" I had never spoken to you before... I never insulted you before that... If that wasn't an insult, I don't know what is.
I wouldn't exactly call that an insult, it wasn't that disrespectful to you personally it was soley based on your political opinions which i still have to atke issue with, if you knew the kind of suffering you were giving your tacit support to you would take it back immediately i assure you.
